AMD X570 + PCIe 4 Challenges, Vega VII Boost Retooling

We have more information on Vega VII & Ryzen 3000 after meeting with AMD at CES. The Vega VII boosting behavior will be retooled from Vega 56/64.
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We also spoke with AMD about VBIOS lock-downs (and avoiding them), X570 chipset details, and spoke with separate sources about product release timing and challenges with PCIe 4.0.
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  • Update: Anandtech misreported the ROPs on Vega VII. It is 64, not 128. We met with AMD on-record for Vega VII and CPU discussion, but also spoke off-record with some of AMD's board partners. There is new information in this video not contained in the keynote.

    Gamers NexusGamers NexusVor 9 Tage
    • +Skoopsro DLSS just means scaling the game down and applying some really advanced AA and RT cores are not really any useful yet. I'd actually take the Radeon VII but it looks like it will ve extremely rare, so.. yeah.. I guess I'm gonna just keep my Titan X. No real reason to upgrade yet

      Kristoffer JohnsenKristoffer JohnsenVor 20 Stunden
    • Shouldn't it be radeon 7 or vega 2, rather than vega 7?

      HobeerHobeerVor 6 Tage
    • +Skoopsro Its supposed to bridge the gap between work station and gameplay, for example the DELL all AMD build

      Matthew FriemothMatthew FriemothVor 6 Tage
    • +Texas Talon 2080 costs 735 € here the cheapest one rest are +800 and above 900€

      You'reBlindYou'reBlindVor 7 Tage
  • 300W? The TDP wars just got ridiculous.

    Philip CooperPhilip CooperVor 2 Minuten
  • LATEST UPDATE: This card was NEVER meant to be a consumer graphics card. This was made for the artificial intelligence market, automotive industries. HBM2 was too expensive so AMD killed Vega development and focused on Navi. Taping issues during final production caused the delay of the Navi announcement at CES. AMD was losing money on Vega\HBM2. The only reason it was completed was to have a back up plan if Navi failed\delayed. Wait for Navi to be announced in June \ July release. Navi 12 = RX580-1060 performance\RX3060\4GB GDDR6\75W TDP\$130usd Navi 12= Vega56-1070 performance\RX3070\8GB GDDR6\120W TDP\$200usd Navi 10 = Vega 64 + 15% - GTX1080 perfomance\RX3080\8GB DDR6\150W TDP\$250usd Reference: AdoredTV.

    tonkatoytrucktonkatoytruckVor Stunde
  • I understand some of the info in Pcie 4 but from what I've been reading Pcie 5 is basically around the corner, wouldn't it be smarter for both mobo and companies like AMD or Nvidia to wait a couple years to utilize the better standard? Or is the push for 4 going to be the standard in a typical PC for awhile like with gen 3?

    KyuzoMugenUndPanzerKyuzoMugenUndPanzerVor Tag
    • +silfumus I kinda understand that, but the question is more or less relevant since GN is talking about gen 4 rather than gen 5, which is the general confusion for me.

      KyuzoMugenUndPanzerKyuzoMugenUndPanzerVor 19 Stunden
    • PCIe 4 is mainly for ML/HPC crowd. Others stick to PCIe 5.

      silfumussilfumusVor Tag
  • Please do some extensive testing on the Radeon VII in Blender vs the RTX cards and a 1080ti.

    steve e millersteve e millerVor Tag
  • It will be compatible with b450 won't it

    jim tsolakjim tsolakVor 2 Tage
  • Yet another power hog. I give up from AMD cards till further notice.

    MagniMagniVor 2 Tage
  • The biggest question is will my Crosshair VI Hero X370 work with Ryzen 3000 series... Now you can pair X370 with Ryzen 2000 series with Bios update. That is the real question.

    kamata93kamata93Vor 3 Tage
  • I need an upgrade from a fury x...will this be it?

    robert kennionrobert kennionVor 3 Tage
  • I'm interested in seeing if the Radeon 7 can have the same 213% power target as Vega 56. That change plus a water block could make it a beast of a card.

    wabash9000wabash9000Vor 4 Tage
  • www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_rumoured_to_have_less_than_5_000_radeon_vii_graphics_cards/1

    Alessandro PoetaAlessandro PoetaVor 4 Tage
  • FUCK INTEL !!

    96donov96donovVor 4 Tage
  • Aorus Master "new" updated rgb illumination.. I just bought this board, head the rgb software was not very good.. Has it been updated?

    jdpworksjdpworksVor 5 Tage
  • pity that nothing was shown to Navi

    M. BepunktM. BepunktVor 5 Tage
  • That was fast! :)

    Lt WinterLt WinterVor 5 Tage
  • I pre-ordered and purchased the most expensive X370 motherboard with the intentions of it being able to run the Ryzen 3000 series. I hope I didn’t kiss away 320 dollars!! The selling point was the upgrade path come on AMD!!

    Hellstorm LLCHellstorm LLCVor 5 Tage
  • Wish I could thumb up the video but thumbs down the products :/

    ThrobbinHoodThrobbinHoodVor 5 Tage
  • Thanks 4 your videos and your point of view. Michael Quesada and you are my favourite tech youtubers.

    Christian FornesChristian FornesVor 5 Tage
  • 1:42

    Viewer19Viewer19Vor 5 Tage
  • That guy is playing The Division 2 in the background

    K EichelmannK EichelmannVor 5 Tage
  • Am I the only one that doesnt care how many watts a gpu uses? As long as its fast af, I dont care about the $5 bucks a month itll cost me to run it lol

    R3dlohR3dlohVor 6 Tage
    • Twilight Sparkle lol you should be perfectly fine my man.

      R3dlohR3dlohVor 2 Tage
    • +R3dloh Well...im a fool xd , anyways do you think that the corsair cx 850m is ok for the i7 9700k and the rtx 2060 ,the wattage of my psu is ok but the quality is SHIT (i guess)

      Twilight SparkleTwilight SparkleVor 2 Tage
    • +Twilight Sparkle Well if you buy a high end gpu and buy a weak psu... youre a fool

      R3dlohR3dlohVor 2 Tage
    • That´s not the reason, the main reason is that you have to have a good psu or your PC will turn off every time when the gpu uses all the watts of the psu

      Twilight SparkleTwilight SparkleVor 2 Tage
  • Am I looking at RGB cable combs? Just shoot me and get it over with.

    Shady BradyShady BradyVor 6 Tage
  • Nvidia is just butt hurt cause they know now its AMD time to shine Vega 7 will be an improvement and its a BIG STEP in the right direction and a step forward. NAVI will be amazing and within the next couple years AMD will release tons of GPUs and Nvidia can fix all the 2060-2080ti RMAs and shut the F up. Go red team!!!

    DpsneekaDpsneekaVor 6 Tage
  • Yeah, tdp plays a big role for me. I thought that 7nm should consume less

    cmarek1989cmarek1989Vor 6 Tage
  • Any explanation on ROPs? They doubled (64 to 128) those, and I have heard it helps with performance.

    hubertEThubertETVor 6 Tage
  • what about x370 boards will they work with 3000?

    Mihai-Daniel MuresanMihai-Daniel MuresanVor 6 Tage
  • I really like those white wires! What are those?

    master Pmaster PVor 6 Tage
  • If Vega 7 overclocks/under volts and can be... unlocked (to what i dont know!) like Vega 56 could then it may be a very good card. A vega 56 could punch well above its weight when given a bit of prodding, drop in voltage and some sill memory overclocks could be achieved.

    Stephen PattersonStephen PattersonVor 6 Tage
  • Well done AMD but all I hope is that they don’t put the price up of the new 3xxx cpus! And I’m a i9 9900k owner! As I want them to drive prices down and not follow suit and just match intel and nvidia pricing traits or we’re all screwed!

    GransterGransterVor 6 Tage
  • in gpu they fucked up

    Walt KowalskiWalt KowalskiVor 6 Tage
  • 3000 series on x370? I don't want to get my hopes up. Otherwise, more VRAM with VII compared to 2080 plus Ryzen being bottlenecked at 1080p and below means we got Intel/Nvidia killing Red team 4k gaming machines for cheap coming 2019. Was the slog through 2018 worth it? Gamers may be approaching our promised land with AMD as our prophet.

    muinaisetmuinaisetVor 7 Tage
  • why is it that everytime that I watch this dude report his findings that I feel the need to take a shower?

    Joshua DunbarJoshua DunbarVor 7 Tage
  • I dont give a fuck about that z390 board bc i3 8100 costs 200€

    BoomWithPeterBoomWithPeterVor 7 Tage
  • I predict that this hsit will be even under RTX 2080 raw performance, which is in reality RTX 2070 with no hike in memory for 700 USD!

    Tomáš BouzekTomáš BouzekVor 7 Tage
  • 700$... Where are all the fanboys who screamed we'd get 1080ti performance for 300$? lmao...

    Gul DukatGul DukatVor 7 Tage
  • Stop calling it Vega seven, it's Vega II

    T01HIG5vb2JzT01HIG5vb2JzVor 7 Tage
  • Vega is too expensive. AMD needs to make midrange Vega card for

    T01HIG5vb2JzT01HIG5vb2JzVor 7 Tage
  • I'm switching to an all AMD system this year. In a nzxt manta case.

    Captain Roger RedbeardCaptain Roger RedbeardVor 7 Tage
  • I only just understood the marketing scheme ... -.- 4: RX400 5: RX500 6: Radeon Vega 64 7: Radeon 7 #slowpoke I know, it has nothing to do with the chip Gen, they want to forget Vega 56, and RX500 are actually also 4th gen. And i still don't know how to call it. Is it Radeon Vega Two, Radeon Vega Seven, or just Radeon Seven?

    KytetigerKytetigerVor 7 Tage
    • VII = V (ega) 2(II)

      Mihai-Daniel MuresanMihai-Daniel MuresanVor 6 Tage
  • So basically it's the same GPU on a new tech process. Great...

    John DoeJohn DoeVor 7 Tage
  • @2:44 I want those cables

    i love streeti love streetVor 7 Tage
  • Ryzen 3000 can’t come quick enough. I need an upgrade lol

    rossko peekorossko peekoVor 7 Tage
  • " A distinct lack of screws "

    Son GokuSon GokuVor 7 Tage
  • Why do people keep calling this Vega VII? Isn't the Raedon VII name duel purpose as Raedon Vega II and Raedon 7nm? To me saying Vega VII seems a bit like saying Graphics GPU.

    Rob KhonsuRob KhonsuVor 7 Tage
  • $699????? For extra fps only? At least give us new features like nvidia has on Ray Tracing and DLSS.

    GamerCareGamerCareVor 7 Tage
  • What Kind of Cellphone case are you using? Can it take a hammer to the face like Linus's cellphone case?

    Ian SullivanIan SullivanVor 7 Tage
  • That guy playing division 2 in the back sets new WR in dying the most in one match ;)

    deepdeepVor 7 Tage
  • Its 64 ROPs

    ShaunShaunVor 7 Tage
  • 10 GHZ?

    tr233tr233Vor 7 Tage
  • AMD are effectively releasing a less effecient 1080 ti almost 2 years after NVidia did. And they don't even have free sync exclusivity to fall back on any more. It's a shame.

    UniUniVor 7 Tage
    • Isn't Nvidia guilty of the same thing with their Rtx cards? Ray tracing is a bust for gaming. And their 800$ reference model Rtx card has basically the same performance as the Gtx 1080 ti.

      Marc BrownMarc BrownVor 3 Tage
AMD X570 + PCIe 4 Challenges, Vega VII Boost Retooling